together and make people to communicate even if they don't speak the same language, they have different religions. >> rose: so when you left la scala, why did you leave? >> as i said, i was in la is a la for 19 years, scala for 19 years, even longer than -- >> and my relationship with the orchestra and the chorus has always been for 19 years perfect. then when i had a fight with the administration, let's say, because i don't want to indicate this or that person, and everything became political, and in italy, when something becomes political, and the controversial, politically speaking, then the only thing that you can do is to leave. but 19 years are a part of my best years in my musical career, so i said, you know,, to explain exactly details of what happened is impossible, and the newspapers generally made a mess of the entire story, because they didn't know exactly the details. they thought that the orchestra was against me, but this is not true. >> rose: not true. >> absolutely not true. i never had a fight with an orchestra in my life. but there were reasons outside of the artistic field tha